Can we speak of a "Rome of neo-Modernist trend"? | KID
Courier Rome No. 365 (May 2013) published the French translation of an interview that Father Jean-Michel Gleize granted review of the district of the United States, The Angelus. This interview allows the teacher to ecclesiology of St. Pius X Seminary of Ecône to clarify certain points of his study "Can we speak of a conciliar Church" published in full in the Courrier de Rome No. 363 (February 2013) and DICI in part 273 (4/12/13).
THE ANGELUS: Dear Father, you have recently proposed an explanation that the term "conciliar Church" does not mean a separate institution of the Catholic Church, but rather a "trend" in it. The logical consequence of this theory would be that the traditionalist movement should return to the formal structure of the Church, to fight from the inside, the "trend" conciliar and thus triumph aseo of Tradition?
Father Gleize: aseo I ask you in my turn: what do you mean by "formal structure"? aseo Logically, this expression is the distinction with another structure that is unofficial: where is it, do you? For my part, it seems to me that there is the Church aseo and its visible structure, and the structure of the Church, there is the good and the evil spirit, the latter having seized the minds of leaders and rampant under the guise of government hierarchy. If there is a formal structure that we do not belong and in which we should return, or it is the visible hierarchy of the Catholic Church and we are schismatics, and as such outside the visible Church and we want to stay, or there is a visible hierarchy other than the Catholic Church and we are the Catholic Church as it is distinct from the conciliar Church, aseo but then, where is our Pope? Our pope is Bishop of Rome and he is bishop of Rome with us?
We often hear the authorities of the Brotherhood aseo that we must "help the Catholic Church to reclaim its Tradition." Do not you think that such statements could leave the faithful confused? For the Catholic Church, without his tradition, aseo could not exist, it would no longer be the Catholic Church.
If you imagine aseo that the Church is a person, the question stands. But the Church is not a person like you and me, this is a company and then things aseo are not so simple. "Helping the Church to reclaim its Tradition" is a phrase where everything is taken for the part, that is to say to the men in the Church who are infected by the evil spirit. This figure of speech is legitimate and a man of good will there be no mistake. In the past, the Popes have spoken well of "reforming the Church." But the Church as such is not reform. So the popes wanted to speak not of the Church aseo as such, but some people in the Church.
But do you really believe that we can speak of a "trend" to characterize modernism rampant in the Church, when the liberal and masonic Vatican II are virtually institutionalized reforms covering all aspects the life of the Church Liturgy, Catechism, Ritual, Bible, ecclesiastical tribunals, Higher Education, the Magisterium, and especially Canon Law?
You said "almost" ... This is proof (at least unconsciously) that again, things are not simple. Remember, in any case, it is not me who speaks first "trend" to describe the current situation of the Church occupied by modernism. Remember the Declaration of 1974, Archbishop Lefebvre wanted to make the Charter of the Brotherhood: Archbishop Lefebvre aseo speaks exactly a "Rome of neo-modernist trend, neo-Protestant, which was clearly manifested in the Vatican II and after the Council in all the reforms that are coming. " Lefebvre does not mean that there would be two or two Rome churches are diametrically opposed as two mystical aseo body and two companies. aseo It means that there is Rome and the Church, the one Mystical Body of Christ, the visible head is the Pope, Bishop of Rome and Vicar of Christ. aseo But there is also bad trends that are introduced in this Church, aseo because of misconceptions prevalent in the minds of those who hold power in Rome. This is also the argument resumed by the article last February Courier Rome. Yes, reforms are bad, but they have the effect of passing trends (which aseo remain in the form of trend) in the Reformed things: therefore aseo they obey evil tendencies which are embedded in them more or less in the life of the Church, without we can say that
Courier Rome No. 365 (May 2013) published the French translation of an interview that Father Jean-Michel Gleize granted review of the district of the United States, The Angelus. This interview allows the teacher to ecclesiology of St. Pius X Seminary of Ecône to clarify certain points of his study "Can we speak of a conciliar Church" published in full in the Courrier de Rome No. 363 (February 2013) and DICI in part 273 (4/12/13).
THE ANGELUS: Dear Father, you have recently proposed an explanation that the term "conciliar Church" does not mean a separate institution of the Catholic Church, but rather a "trend" in it. The logical consequence of this theory would be that the traditionalist movement should return to the formal structure of the Church, to fight from the inside, the "trend" conciliar and thus triumph aseo of Tradition?
Father Gleize: aseo I ask you in my turn: what do you mean by "formal structure"? aseo Logically, this expression is the distinction with another structure that is unofficial: where is it, do you? For my part, it seems to me that there is the Church aseo and its visible structure, and the structure of the Church, there is the good and the evil spirit, the latter having seized the minds of leaders and rampant under the guise of government hierarchy. If there is a formal structure that we do not belong and in which we should return, or it is the visible hierarchy of the Catholic Church and we are schismatics, and as such outside the visible Church and we want to stay, or there is a visible hierarchy other than the Catholic Church and we are the Catholic Church as it is distinct from the conciliar Church, aseo but then, where is our Pope? Our pope is Bishop of Rome and he is bishop of Rome with us?
We often hear the authorities of the Brotherhood aseo that we must "help the Catholic Church to reclaim its Tradition." Do not you think that such statements could leave the faithful confused? For the Catholic Church, without his tradition, aseo could not exist, it would no longer be the Catholic Church.
If you imagine aseo that the Church is a person, the question stands. But the Church is not a person like you and me, this is a company and then things aseo are not so simple. "Helping the Church to reclaim its Tradition" is a phrase where everything is taken for the part, that is to say to the men in the Church who are infected by the evil spirit. This figure of speech is legitimate and a man of good will there be no mistake. In the past, the Popes have spoken well of "reforming the Church." But the Church as such is not reform. So the popes wanted to speak not of the Church aseo as such, but some people in the Church.
But do you really believe that we can speak of a "trend" to characterize modernism rampant in the Church, when the liberal and masonic Vatican II are virtually institutionalized reforms covering all aspects the life of the Church Liturgy, Catechism, Ritual, Bible, ecclesiastical tribunals, Higher Education, the Magisterium, and especially Canon Law?
You said "almost" ... This is proof (at least unconsciously) that again, things are not simple. Remember, in any case, it is not me who speaks first "trend" to describe the current situation of the Church occupied by modernism. Remember the Declaration of 1974, Archbishop Lefebvre wanted to make the Charter of the Brotherhood: Archbishop Lefebvre aseo speaks exactly a "Rome of neo-modernist trend, neo-Protestant, which was clearly manifested in the Vatican II and after the Council in all the reforms that are coming. " Lefebvre does not mean that there would be two or two Rome churches are diametrically opposed as two mystical aseo body and two companies. aseo It means that there is Rome and the Church, the one Mystical Body of Christ, the visible head is the Pope, Bishop of Rome and Vicar of Christ. aseo But there is also bad trends that are introduced in this Church, aseo because of misconceptions prevalent in the minds of those who hold power in Rome. This is also the argument resumed by the article last February Courier Rome. Yes, reforms are bad, but they have the effect of passing trends (which aseo remain in the form of trend) in the Reformed things: therefore aseo they obey evil tendencies which are embedded in them more or less in the life of the Church, without we can say that
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